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Fraternity Basement Setup

Postby bigpuss » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:04 pm

Hey guys, I saw a previous post in this section about using this setup in a basement ( http://www.wadsnet.com/~dtenney/dayton_8MTM.htm ). My fraternity, Kappa Sigma, is in need of a system for our new house. My plan is to put 4 sets of the MTM's around the basement suspended from the ceiling. For power I was looking at the Crown XLS-602B with the MTM's wired in series. Does this sound like a good plan? In terms of a sub I will probobly work with two 15's and around 1000 watts. Do you think that will be adequate given the large size of the room? The basement is around 80' x 40'.
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Postby kevox » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:13 pm

bigpuss wrote:Do you think that will be adequate given the large size of the room? The basement is around 80' x 40'.
Nah, better make it 6 15's and 3000w RMS to be safe:D

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Seriously though I have no idea but I imagine 2 15's would sound good in only half of the room whereas they'd be quiet in the opposing half. Granted the room is 80' long and 40' wide and you have the 15's on one end of it.
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Postby TalNLnky » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:46 pm

what is your goal? a dance floor (loud as **** musik) or HT?

if its music... then i'd say at least dual 15's in a ported box tuned around 25-33hz
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Postby JimJ[VT] » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:03 pm

Couple 18" BTL's :D

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Postby ballstothewall » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:28 pm

'JimJ[VT wrote:']Couple 18" BTL's :D

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Postby bigpuss » Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:31 pm

TalNLnky wrote:what is your goal? a dance floor (loud as **** musik) or HT?

if its music... then i'd say at least dual 15's in a ported box tuned around 25-33hz


It will be for music only. The subs aren't my main concern as I have a lot of experience with enclosures/install. As far as the main's go, what is everyone's opinion?
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Postby alpha » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:16 am

4 sets of dayton 8s? how were you planning on wiring that?
I've got one set running off an xls-402...granted, i've never had them in a room that big, but you might be able to get away with two sets...mine get **** loud.

i'm also running to AA ava 15s sealed off of ~1000w total, and they shake everything. Put them in the right ported box with around the same power and you should have some nice pounding subs for music.

My d8s have taken everything i've thrown at them, i'm sure they'll take any abuse you can throw at them.
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Postby Atomic Fusion » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:21 am

You're way better off going high effeciency... Check out http://www.pispeakers.com... Wayne's a cool guy and he sells high effeciency kits for a good price. It will just work a lot better for your setup, especially if you're running subs. Probably.... Two pairs of one of his middle designs would be more than enough.

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Postby bigpuss » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:35 pm

4 sets of the MTM's would be very much cheaper than the high efficienct kits. I would imagine them to sound better too. Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't I wire the MTM's to a proper impedance?
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Postby Atomic Fusion » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:46 am

bigpuss wrote:4 sets of the MTM's would be very much cheaper than the high efficienct kits. I would imagine them to sound better too. Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't I wire the MTM's to a proper impedance?


Define proper impedance... The XLS operates at 4 ohm stereo, and two pairs of the high effeciency speakers will get you 4 ohm stereo, which will actually get you more power on tap...

The MTM's also will not necessarily sound better, and will distort more at high SPL levels (which is really what you're here for) than the high effeciency speakers.

Finally, two theatre series 3 kits would run you about $500 dollars... I certainly can't see how four pairs of the Dayton MTMs would cost you a substantial amount less than that. Even if it's $100 or $150... Cough it up for superior performance.

If you are trying to drive a large, loud crowd... This is the best way to go, period.

And if you're concerned about the intergrity or the quality of the source, don't be.... He uses Eminence parts on the low and mid end lines, which are quality pieces (not top quality but very good), I've used many of the same parts he has with great success, and I've used one of his designs and it performed wonderfully. Another design I made myself ended up being nearly identical to one of his and also sounded spectacular, both for SQ and SPL.

His boxes are larger than normal but that's because it's geared for home theatre and music. You can design your own enclosure based on the fact that you are running subs.

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