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Building a 302...

Postby 95Honda » Tue May 16, 2006 2:38 pm

My little brother is a college student going to Central Washington University. He has a pretty bad-*** Bronco that he has been building up with the money he makes during the summer time loading pallets of Soda on to trucks for Safeway. He has done a lot to it by himeself including a 10.25 sterling rear, lockers, 4:56 gears, new Tranny and T-case, 6" lift, nice tunes, bumper and winch.....

I'm pretty proud of him for all the work he's done, and hey, he's also my younger bro.... Well, anyway, he calls me last week and tells me he threw a rod in the motor and is going to part the truck out to try and make some money back because he doesn't have the money and know-how on rebuilding the motor... So I tell him hold up, I'll figure something out...

Well, this weekend, I borrow a buddies 20' box van and 24' trailer, driver 200 miles to his school, pick up the Bronco and drive it back. Now I got this big black SOB sitting in my driveway....

Here's my question, since I've already commited myself to this, I have to figure out the best way to go about it. It's coming outta my pocket to, so Imma be smart about it. I will pull the motor out this weekend and start tearing it down. Now do I-

1- Just pay for the machining of the block ($200) and heads ($250 assembled) and buy a rebuild kit ($?)

2- Have a short block built ($600 + 90 day warranty) and heads ($250 assembled) + rockers, pushrods, oil pump and gaskets.... ($?)

3- Have a long block built ($1170 with 7 year waranty).....

It is a 90' (Multipoint fuel and roller cam model) and I am going to have some relief and polish work done on the heads..... I have probably built 10 motors before from the ground up, so that isn't a problem.... I'm just wondering if it's worth the extra few hundred to get the 7 year warranty?

Also, does anyone know the best online source for master rebuild kits? I checked Summit already, but I know there are better, I have a PAW catalog, but it's 5 years old....

Any suggestions/inputs welcome....

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Postby milenk0 » Tue May 16, 2006 8:16 pm

i would go to autozone with the bare block, and get one of their rebuilt motors w/ warranty, then (assuming all accesories and intake/exhaust are still good) bolt all those parts back on.
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Postby k-mart » Wed May 17, 2006 4:13 pm

95Honda wrote: I'm just wondering if it's worth the extra few hundred to get the 7 year warranty?

Any suggestions/inputs welcome....

-Mike


Yes, I think it is.
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Postby DanWiggins » Wed May 17, 2006 9:30 pm

Get the block and heads ground. Then get a 331 stroker kit. He'll thank you for the extra torque...:)

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Postby black300zx » Thu May 18, 2006 5:49 pm

Imho, it depends on what your brother plans on doing with the car after he gets done school. If he plans on doing major motorwork to it, or putting a bigger engine in, there's not much point in paying extra for a 7year warranty.

On the other hand, if the engine you put in is gonna stay in it till it dies, then I'd jump on the 7year warranty
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Postby ford302redneck » Fri May 19, 2006 2:18 am

D.S.S has great rebuild kits. www.dssracing.com Not the cheapest priced but one of the best quailty for Ford motors. But If I was you I would get a shortblock for that price.
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Postby 95Honda » Mon May 22, 2006 11:03 am

I pulled the motor out yesterday and found out was what wrong. One of the rods was snapped clean in half, piston all seized up in the bore.....

So I ordered the long block this morning, it will be done next week. Heads will be ported and polished, and a few other things. I have headers for it, 2 chamber flowmasters, 3" exhaust (stuff was already on it). Throttle body spacer, high flow intank and a few other things. It should run pretty good. I think my brother will be better off with the warranty.....
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Postby 95Honda » Mon May 22, 2006 3:28 pm

Here is a pic of the motor coming out. I had to take off the fromt wheels and tires to get it low enough that the cherry-picker would clear the front.

I also have an extra MSD 6A I may throw on for him.
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Postby 95Honda » Thu May 25, 2006 9:07 am

Sandblasted the headers, oil pan and valve covers. Painted the headers with VHT 2000 degree ceramic primer and grey topcoat. Painted the oil pan and valve covers with VHT 500 degree engine paint. He wanted red, wierd color for a Ford V8, but I used a ford red, I think it is a color of some of thier 6 cylinders. Looks good so far, motor should be ready this week.
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Postby black300zx » Thu May 25, 2006 10:51 pm

looks good - can you be my big brother and build up my engine when it dies :p
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